2016.024: #AllPeopleLie

From Popehat (h/t Scott Greenfield):

It is currently fashionable for defense attorneys to say “clients lie” and “most clients are guilty.” I wouldn’t agree with either proposition. Everybody lies; I don’t think clients lie more than anyone else in terrifying and stressful circumstances. Humans tend to remember a version of events that puts them in the best light, something we normally regard as a mere venal sin. It’s just that criminal defense scenarios require a level of precision and accuracy that most human interactions don’t.

Being an effective and responsible criminal defense attorney doesn’t require believing everything a client says, exactly. The policy could be better described as “trust, but verify.” The key isn’t to build a defense on the premise that everything the client says is perfectly accurate. The key is to take what the client says seriously and follow up on it, rather than dismissing them out of hand. If you don’t, you’re not defending the client — you’re defending your stereotype of the client.

“Everybody lies” is like “all lives matter.” It doesn’t contradict the narrower statement to which it is intended to respond. Of course clients lie, because clients are people in terrifying and stressful circumstances and people in terrifying and stressful circumstances lie. Sometimes, a wise and benevolent man said years ago, they are lying to themselves as well.

“Currently fashionable” is a contemptful little phrase, and inaccurate in the same way that “clients lie” is inaccurate. It has always been true that clients lie to their criminal-defense lawyers.1 Maybe the saying of it is a fad, but I doubt it — competent lawyers have, as far as I know, always acknowledged that their clients might not be telling them the truth. So we doubt and we doublecheck and we red-team.

Ken is right, in a painfully obvious made-for-ATL way, that a lawyer should take what the client says seriously.And I’m right when I say that it doesn’t matter to me whether you did it or not. And Scott is right when he points out that a lying client may squander the defense’s scarce resources.

It’s not the lawyer’s case but the client’s. And if the client wants to waste scarce defense resources on rabbit trails, that’s his stupid prerogative. But if you are the client, and you know these three things:

  • That your lawyer is going to take what you say seriously;
  • That it doesn’t matter to her whether you did it or not; and
  • That rabbit trails are going to make it less likely that she can actually find a defense that will work for you.

Are you going to lie to your lawyer? Or are you going to tell her the truth, so that she can focus her energy on the defenses that might have some basis in fact?

I like to think my clients are smart enough to do the latter.

I’d like to, but it’s not true. Because even my clients — awesome as they are — don’t always tell me the truth, “taking what the client says seriously” can’t mean following every lead. I’m not going to waste resources on something that won’t help the client. For example, if the client’s story is impossible2 given the facts beyond change. Or if the client’s story would, if true, do more harm than good.3

Taking what the client says seriously does not mean not questioning it. To the contrary, if we take the client’s story seriously we are going to look for the evidence that would advance it and for the evidence that would refute it. Because if we don’t beat on the client’s story, it’s likely to collapse when the State starts beating on it.

All clients want us to believe them, but there is a special class of clients who need for us to believe them. Despite being told repeatedly, and registering their understanding, that our job is not to judge them, they proclaim that need loudly and often: “I need you to believe me.” They might even express a desire that you not red-team their case.

No, those alarm bells you are hearing are not just in your head.


  1. Ken says he also disagrees that “most clients are guilty,” but he doesn’t elaborate. 

  2. Not merely implausible. Implausible things happen every day. 

  3. “I’m telling you, she was asking for it.” Dude, she’s six

2 Comments

  1. I think our clients deserve the Benifit of the doubt.
    A client may appear guilty to all. Doesn’t matter. As the lawyer we are the one person in the world who should hear our client out. And no matter how implausible the story we owe it to our client to check it out. That’s our duty.

    A quick story. Years ago a client was charged with Agg Robbery on a car jacking. Two eyewitness had picked him out of a lineup and his prints were all over the inside of the car. The client explained that ” a guy that looked just like me” had rolled up in the car. My client had jumped in the case, not knowing it was stolen and was checking the car out. When he learned the car was stolen he got out. I got mug shots of the other dude. He looked somewhat like my client. I tried it . 10-2 for guilty. Before the retrial I dug harder and got more mug shots of the other dude. I couldn’t believe my eyes. In one of the additional mug shots the other dude looked like my Clients twin. It was just a better picture.
    Went back to trial. This time I got a not guilty. So I learned that even though the clients story sounded like horseshit,
    The evidence supported his story.
    Robb
    PS and of course he never paid one dime for the retrial. So Jamaur if you are reading this- it’s never too late to do the right thing.

  2. Having been practicing defense for almost eight years now, I can say I’m guilty of having disbelieved when I should have believed and also of having believed when I shouldn’t have.

    I’ve finally gotten to the point that when I don’t believe them that I don’t say a word. I just run them through how it will play out at trial and then ask them what they think a jury will make of the information. Usually that consists of telling them: “Well, you know you are going to have to take the stand and tell the jury that . . .”

    Having been a prosecutor for the first nine years of my legal career, it is funny to look back and think of how many times I believed the defense attorney always knew the whole truth about his client.

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