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Microsoft Word 2011 Bloated PDFs

I’m doc­u­ment­ing this here in case some­one else has the same prob­lem. Today I wrote a ten-page response to a gov­ern­ment motion, and when I saved it (from MS Word 2011) to PDF for­mat it was over 5 megabytes—too big to be filed via ECF. Pok­ing around The Google, I found a sug­ges­tion that I save it first as a Post­script file, then open that with Preview.

After try­ing that, and other things in the same vein, I found a bet­ter solu­tion: save the file as a .doc file (Word ’97−2004 for­mat), then save that as a PDF, all within MS Word. Here’s how a smaller doc­u­ment sizes out:

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The doc­u­ment (three and a half pages) saved in .DOC for­mat takes up 37 kilo­bytes; the PDF of that doc­u­ment is even smaller, at 27 KB.

Save it as a .DOCX instead, and it bloats to 118 KB. Save that to PDF and three and a half pages of text take up a stag­ger­ing 494 KB—more than eigh­teen times as big as it needs to be.

Astound­ing. What the hell is wrong with Microsoft?

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Mark Bennett got his letter of marque from the Supreme Court of Texas in May 1995. He is famous for having no sense of humor when it comes to totalitarianism.

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13 Responses to “Microsoft Word 2011 Bloated PDFs”

  1. Ric Moore says:

    You’re just find­ing out… Heh, I use Libre­Of­fice for all of my PDF con­ver­sions. Nice, tight and small file sizes …right out of the box. At SOME point, all doc­u­ments should be in ODF (Open Doc­u­ment For­mat), which is now stan­dard in most Euro­pean countries.

    It seems that they don’t want all of their doc­u­ments hostage to a monop­oly that they rou­tinely have to haul into court to make them play nice. Microsoft tried to sab­o­tage the Open Doc­u­ment stan­dard, so they had to slap them around in court for that, too. Here in the states, it’s like there is no prob­lem with one com­pany run­ning things, although Apple has been chang­ing that tune.

    I haven’t owned a copy of Win­dows since 3.1 and never looked back. Right now, I’m run­ning Ubuntu 12.10 and it’s sweet. Our web­site server is run­ning on a head­less ver­sion of Debian Linux and it hauls coal. With­out the over­head for a Desk­top, it’s pure text-mode on steroids, devoted to only serv­ing Apache2 web­pages. Oh yeah, word­press runs with­out a hitch. So, find some old box, down­load Ubuntu, burn it to a DVD, and install it. Play with it. See if you find you can live nicely and never pay for soft­ware again. And, your PDF files will never be big­ger than they need to be.

    I respect you too much to steer you wrong! :) Ric

    • Jeff Gamso says:

      I under­stand almost noth­ing about com­put­ers. I do my blog on Blog­ger because it requires even less skill than Word­Press. And I switched to Mac 6 years ago because my tech guy made me when I needed a new com­puter and so basi­cally had to give up Word­Per­fect. So pretty much every­thing Ric said is way beyond my level of competence/understanding.

      But I was curi­ous and checked on the reply brief I filed ECF yes­ter­day. 53 KB as saved as .doc in Word 2008, 160 KB for the PDF I sent the court (cre­ated through the Mac’s print func­tion), 180 KB for the ver­sion the court sent with the noti­fi­ca­tion of filing.

      Not sure what any of that means.

      (I do, how­ever, hate every­thing Microsoft.)

    • I’ve used Libre­Of­fice for years (because some lawyers still use Word­Per­fect, and send me files in that for­mat). But for some rea­son Libre­Of­fice doesn’t rec­og­nize my full set of fonts. So when I want to use Equity Text B Reg­u­lar, I can’t, and if I open a doc­u­ment with text in Equity Text B Reg­u­lar (which is my pre­ferred type­face) Libre­Of­fice dis­plays it and prints it as Equity Text B Italic.

  2. Jeremy Kridel says:

    Another way of say­ing what Ric said: The switch from .doc to .docx came with a lot of plain-text markup designed to cre­ate some­thing a bit more “open” and standards-compliant, while also doing a lit­tle of the co-opting. It had the result of adding a lot of extra stuff to the files under­neath the hood. For most per­sons’ pur­poses it’s a kind of white noise–not both­er­some, doesn’t cause prob­lems with get­ting things done.

    Until it does. All that extra markup gets crammed into the PDF you tried to create.

    That said, I was a soft­ware devel­oper for eight years before going into law. Know what? Using Linux dis­tri­b­u­tions has been too painful for me to put up with–I know how and there­fore do spend way too much time tweak­ing the sys­tem, and far too lit­tle time get­ting real work done. I say stick with the Mac if you’re happy with it–but maybe change your Word defaults to stick with the “old” .doc for­mat if you can get away with it.

    • Ric Moore says:

      Jeremy, Ubuntu has made Linux some­what eas­ier on the user, as far as soft­ware goes. The down­side is that yes, you do have to under­stand the com­puter a bit more than with the pro­pri­etary OS’s. The plus side is that you DO get a lot more choices to make.

      I install stock Ubuntu, which comes with the Unity desk­top (think Windows8) , then imme­di­ately after I install the XFCE desk­top on top, as it works the way I expect a desk­top to work, almost like Win95 with the drop down start menu. It also gives me 6 vir­tual desk­tops to use, kinda like stack­ing mon­i­tors into a 2X3 stack and pan­ning among them with one phys­i­cal mon­i­tor. I just mouse move to the edge and there is another desk­top win­dow to run an app on. Meh, I like it. And, the pdf’s I cre­ate are a lot smaller than the same word doc­u­ment con­verted to pdf using Word.

  3. Mark Lyon says:

    I had a sim­i­lar issue — I was using a font that Office decided not to embed, it was con­vert­ing my doc to an image. If I used the ‘save to PDF’ option, it was multi-MB. If I printed to the PDF printer, it was just a few hun­dred kb.

    If you don’t have Adobe’s Acro­bat Printer installed, check out PDF 995.

    • Mark Draughn says:

      Oh God, that would do it. The Microsoft Word doc­u­ment for­mat has been through about 25 years of evo­lu­tion and is famously con­fus­ing. Adobe’s PDF for­mat has roots just as old, and it’s a hideous mish­mash of cross ref­er­ences, ver­sion changes, and optional embed­ded con­tent. Any piece of soft­ware that trans­lates from one to the other is likely to make deci­sions that screw up the ren­der­ing, bloat the result­ing doc­u­ment, or both. Add in the fact that Microsoft really hopes you’ll switch to their XPS alter­na­tive, and any­thing could happen.

  4. Ross says:

    I use PDF Cre­ator set up as a printer choice. It seems to do a decent job of mak­ing pdf’s,

  5. Keith says:

    Mark,

    Do you get the same bloat if you print to Adobe PDF rather than sav­ing it as a PDF?

  6. Jeremy Kridel says:

    Hate to say it, but rip­ping and replac­ing an OS and a win­dow man­ager for the sake of smaller PDFs is kind of user-unfriendly, no?

    If I were an econ­o­mist I would prob­a­bly try to argue MS should fix it or con­sumers will look else­where. But 1) mostly, con­sumers won’t, and will suf­fer instead; and 2) hav­ing been jerked around as an IT guy for years of plat­form changes, I’ll just blame MS for the prob­lem. :-)

  7. Andrew Dillon says:

    I noticed the same prob­lem with .doc/.docx con­ver­sion a long time ago. It hap­pens in Word 2011 and it hap­pens with Microsoft Word 2010 in Win­dows. With Apple, I’ve taken to Nisus Writer Pro. It plays really well with Equity (and Con­course) and I find it much more enjoy­able to write and for­mat in.

    I have Adobe Pro installed but I stopped using its PDF writer. I have a lot more suc­cess with embed­ding sub­sets and with con­trol­ling file size when I use the “Save As PDF” option from Apple’s print dia­logue. (That’s for all pro­grams, includ­ing MS Word.)

  8. bryan simmons says:

    If I ever meet Bill Gates, I am going to punch him in the nose. I just got Win­dows 8 and now I really hate the man. I really liked Win­dows XP and then my lap­top died. Right in the nose. He’s going to get it right in the nose.

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