1. Steve Foster
    June 18, 2010 @ 11:10 am

    The police should simply learn to draw blood by practicing on each other.


  2. David
    June 18, 2010 @ 3:40 pm

    If they want to stick people with needles, they should practice on each other. I was in the military for several years where i was certified as a “combat lifesaver,” which is a sort of immediate-response first-aid provider. Part of the training was learning how to apply an intravenous saline drip. It was all hands-on training. . . on each other, and with mixed results. I completed my graded intravenous drip on my training partner with no problems. When it was his turn, he hit an artery and sprayed type-O positive all over the training room and caused a giant deep-tissue hematoma that went from my wrist to the back of my shoulder blades. My point is that people just should not subject other people to a procedure that which they wouldn’t willingly endure themselves. It doesn’t really surprise me that police officers are willing to subject people to a procedure that they are unwilling to subject themselves to. They don’t have enough confidence in their colleagues ability to draw a blood sample without blowing out a vein or causing an infection, but they are just fine subjecting citizens to that same risk. Just like how officers always downplay the impact of taser weapons (“I was tased in training, it isn’t that bad”) when their personal experience with a taser is in a safe training environment, on wrestling mats, after a physical exam, and with spotters so that they don’t bump their little heads.


    • Mark Bennett
      June 18, 2010 @ 5:23 pm

      They did practice on themselves first.


      • David
        June 19, 2010 @ 5:04 pm

        guess I should have clicked through and read before i jumped to that conclusion. It was misdirected outrage anyways. The real outrage of the whole program isn’t that they are practicing on others, but the vulnerable population they have selected to use as practice dummies. You pretty much covered that in your original post.

  3. Lee Stonum
    June 18, 2010 @ 9:41 pm



  4. Ric Moore
    June 18, 2010 @ 11:54 pm

    How can someone mentally ill give “genuine consent”? I thought all prisoner experiments were deemed illegal on those grounds?


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