Comments on: This Might Cost Him the Chosen Vote http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html the tao of criminal-defense trial lawyering Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:39:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jdog http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html/comment-page-1#comment-12588 Jdog Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:48:33 +0000 http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html#comment-12588 I'd hope not; I think that any religious test is unfortunate, and there's no reason I can think of why a guy couldn't be a good judge while also being a believing Christian of many sorts. (Then again, if he takes "judge not, lest ye be judged" <i>too</i> literally, maybe . . ) I think a lot of folks have difficulty taking off some hats when they really should. A guy calling himself Jack Cagle, say, sending out Christmas cards as a guy who happens to be a believing Christian is different than one -- even if not sent with campaign funds -- from <i>Judge</i> R. Jack Cagle, even without the perhaps reflexive reminder of which particular position he holds. In the former case, I kind of admire the guy for reminding people that he thinks that there's a religious purpose to the holiday. So much for my keen eye for the obvious, I guess. I’d hope not; I think that any religious test is unfortunate, and there’s no reason I can think of why a guy couldn’t be a good judge while also being a believing Christian of many sorts. (Then again, if he takes “judge not, lest ye be judged” too literally, maybe . . )

I think a lot of folks have difficulty taking off some hats when they really should. A guy calling himself Jack Cagle, say, sending out Christmas cards as a guy who happens to be a believing Christian is different than one — even if not sent with campaign funds — from Judge R. Jack Cagle, even without the perhaps reflexive reminder of which particular position he holds. In the former case, I kind of admire the guy for reminding people that he thinks that there’s a religious purpose to the holiday.

So much for my keen eye for the obvious, I guess.

]]> By: Windypundit http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html/comment-page-1#comment-12584 Windypundit Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:02:25 +0000 http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html#comment-12584 "Still seek him"? As in, still waiting for the messiah? Definitely a mixed message in there. How do his opinions read? “Still seek him”? As in, still waiting for the messiah?

Definitely a mixed message in there. How do his opinions read?

]]> By: Mark Goldberg http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html/comment-page-1#comment-12580 Mark Goldberg Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:54:16 +0000 http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html#comment-12580 I am a Jew. I have received hundreds of Christmas cards and only a few Hanukkah cards. I always remember the people who go out of their way to send a Hanukkah card, but what kind of person would I be if I let all the hundreds of other cards offend me? You have to look at the intent of the person sending the card in order to make a judgment of whether the card is offensive. I know Jack Cagle, and if you think this pro-Israel, religiously tolerant man has ever made a decision based on some lawyer's religion, I'd like to know about it. Until then, I suggest people look within themselves to decide who is really being intolerant here. Mark Goldberg I am a Jew. I have received hundreds of Christmas cards and only a few Hanukkah cards. I always remember the people who go out of their way to send a Hanukkah card, but what kind of person would I be if I let all the hundreds of other cards offend me?

You have to look at the intent of the person sending the card in order to make a judgment of whether the card is offensive. I know Jack Cagle, and if you think this pro-Israel, religiously tolerant man has ever made a decision based on some lawyer’s religion, I’d like to know about it. Until then, I suggest people look within themselves to decide who is really being intolerant here.

Mark Goldberg

]]> By: Jeff Gamso http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html/comment-page-1#comment-12579 Jeff Gamso Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:35:12 +0000 http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html#comment-12579 And the fools have already found him? The non-Christians might not be the only ones feeling more than a tad insulted. And the fools have already found him?

The non-Christians might not be the only ones feeling more than a tad insulted.

]]> By: Leroy Roberts http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html/comment-page-1#comment-12577 Leroy Roberts Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:48:00 +0000 http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html#comment-12577 While I am surprised a judge would send out a Christmas Card with campaign funds, I don't see an expression of Christian faith on a Christian holiday as anything requiring recusal or discipline. It shouldn't call his impartiality into question. Are judges required to be polytheist or atheists? Is a Muslim or Jew or a Satanist any less likely to view the world through the filter of his religion? I think it was a poor decision politically, but to imply anything more than that probably says more about your bias than his. While I am surprised a judge would send out a Christmas Card with campaign funds, I don’t see an expression of Christian faith on a Christian holiday as anything requiring recusal or discipline. It shouldn’t call his impartiality into question. Are judges required to be polytheist or atheists? Is a Muslim or Jew or a Satanist any less likely to view the world through the filter of his religion?

I think it was a poor decision politically, but to imply anything more than that probably says more about your bias than his.

]]> By: remy http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html/comment-page-1#comment-12576 remy Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:10:23 +0000 http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html#comment-12576 Wow, As tough as times are right now, to use campaign funds to send out Christmas cards printed on dead trees just seems like such a waste and misuse of funds. I wonder who paid for the postage? And for a judge who is supposed to be impartial and recognize and uphold the separation between Church and State should not be making such blatant religious representations. Wow,

As tough as times are right now, to use campaign funds to send out Christmas cards printed on dead trees just seems like such a waste and misuse of funds. I wonder who paid for the postage? And for a judge who is supposed to be impartial and recognize and uphold the separation between Church and State should not be making such blatant religious representations.

]]> By: Murray Newman http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html/comment-page-1#comment-12572 Murray Newman Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:33:33 +0000 http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html#comment-12572 Yeah. I'm sure it was a somewhat generic Christmas card. I think the fallout on it will be more political than legal. I could be wrong. Yeah. I’m sure it was a somewhat generic Christmas card. I think the fallout on it will be more political than legal.

I could be wrong.

]]> By: Mark Bennett http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html/comment-page-1#comment-12571 Mark Bennett Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:30:52 +0000 http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html#comment-12571 Really? "The wise still seek him"? Really? “The wise still seek him”?

]]> By: Murray Newman http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html/comment-page-1#comment-12570 Murray Newman Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:29:40 +0000 http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html#comment-12570 I'd be surprised if it was recusable. Politically idiotic on the other hand . . . I’d be surprised if it was recusable. Politically idiotic on the other hand . . .

]]> By: Casey OBrien http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html/comment-page-1#comment-12569 Casey OBrien Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:25:08 +0000 http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2009/12/this-might-cost-him-the-chosen-vote.html#comment-12569 It's only offensive because he used campaign funds. Most Jews don't take offense and I doubt Cagle meant it that way. It’s only offensive because he used campaign funds. Most Jews don’t take offense and I doubt Cagle meant it that way.

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