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	<title>Comments on: Bradley Johnson Offers a Free Four-Part Symposium on Internet Marketing for Lawyers</title>
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		<title>By: December 11 roundup</title>
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		<dc:creator>December 11 roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Folks behind venerable Martindale-Hubbell lawyer directory wouldn&#8217;t stoop to comment spam, or would they? [Turkewitz; related Popehat, Bennett] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Folks behind venerable Martindale-Hubbell lawyer directory wouldn&#8217;t stoop to comment spam, or would they? [Turkewitz; related Popehat, Bennett] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anittah Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anittah Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so grateful for not only this post but also your general POV regarding marketing.  I was just chatting with someone this morning who received a phone solicitation for an SEO company that guaranteed TOP GOOGLE PAGE RESULTS for FIVE KEYWORDS for $1K/month.  

There is nothing that rankles legitimate non dumb-ass marketers more than hearing anecdotes like this.

My response to this person, who asked me if I should do it, was, &quot;This clown is going to splog and/or link-farm and/or otherwise use shady tactics to get you a second-page result for your six least important keywords.  There are faster ways to kill your own brand, but Tiger Woods is currently dominating that space.&quot;

If you don&#039;t perform your own marketing (and, to be sure, it is a core competency that is distinct from the practice and business of law) you absolutely must demand from your marketers complete and total transparency into how they are generating whatever it is that they&#039;re generating. Playing dumb when something marketing-related explodes is a piss poor excuse.

There are easy ways to kick the tires of the marketing person that&#039;s trying to sell you something.  Step one: ask yourself, &quot;Is this marketer an idiot?&quot;  And if your baseline for idiocy is low, then perhaps ask yourself, &quot;Could I imagine having a good conversation at a cocktail party with this person?&quot;

If your marketer cannot have a meaningful, interesting, compelling conversation with you, they sure as heck aren&#039;t going to be able to conduct a meaningful, interesting, compelling conversation with your target audience on your behalf.  NEXT!

IMHO :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so grateful for not only this post but also your general POV regarding marketing.  I was just chatting with someone this morning who received a phone solicitation for an SEO company that guaranteed TOP GOOGLE PAGE RESULTS for FIVE KEYWORDS for $1K/month.  </p>
<p>There is nothing that rankles legitimate non dumb-ass marketers more than hearing anecdotes like this.</p>
<p>My response to this person, who asked me if I should do it, was, &#8220;This clown is going to splog and/or link-farm and/or otherwise use shady tactics to get you a second-page result for your six least important keywords.  There are faster ways to kill your own brand, but Tiger Woods is currently dominating that space.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t perform your own marketing (and, to be sure, it is a core competency that is distinct from the practice and business of law) you absolutely must demand from your marketers complete and total transparency into how they are generating whatever it is that they&#8217;re generating. Playing dumb when something marketing-related explodes is a piss poor excuse.</p>
<p>There are easy ways to kick the tires of the marketing person that&#8217;s trying to sell you something.  Step one: ask yourself, &#8220;Is this marketer an idiot?&#8221;  And if your baseline for idiocy is low, then perhaps ask yourself, &#8220;Could I imagine having a good conversation at a cocktail party with this person?&#8221;</p>
<p>If your marketer cannot have a meaningful, interesting, compelling conversation with you, they sure as heck aren&#8217;t going to be able to conduct a meaningful, interesting, compelling conversation with your target audience on your behalf.  NEXT!</p>
<p>IMHO <img src='http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, Doug. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, Doug. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Landau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Landau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding your interesting R.W.Lynch marketing commentary, I came across a case where the marketers sued a lawyer who subscribed to the service but did not get what he had been promised.  http://opinions.kycourts.net/coa/2007-CA-001201.pdf
Just thought this may be of some interest to those who participated in the back and forth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding your interesting R.W.Lynch marketing commentary, I came across a case where the marketers sued a lawyer who subscribed to the service but did not get what he had been promised.  <a href="http://opinions.kycourts.net/coa/2007-CA-001201.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://opinions.kycourts.net/coa/2007-CA-001201.pdf</a><br />
Just thought this may be of some interest to those who participated in the back and forth.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard: Great link from Google, I was looking for just that sort of thing for a post I did earlier today on Martindale-Hubble dropping comment spam.

It&#039;s here:
http://www.newyorkpersonalinjuryattorneyblog.com/2009/12/martindale-hubbell-apologizes-for-blog.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard: Great link from Google, I was looking for just that sort of thing for a post I did earlier today on Martindale-Hubble dropping comment spam.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s here:<br />
<a href="http://www.newyorkpersonalinjuryattorneyblog.com/2009/12/martindale-hubbell-apologizes-for-blog.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorkpersonalinjuryattorneyblog.com/2009/12/martindale-hubbell-apologizes-for-blog.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shmartass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shmartass.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed this post. I&#039;ll have to bookmark your site for later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed this post. I&#8217;ll have to bookmark your site for later.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Hornsby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Hornsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only that, but Google just put out a webmaster blog post explaining how futile comment spam is: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2009/11/hard-facts-about-comment-spam.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only that, but Google just put out a webmaster blog post explaining how futile comment spam is: <a href="http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2009/11/hard-facts-about-comment-spam.html" rel="nofollow">http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2009/11/hard-facts-about-comment-spam.html</a></p>
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