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Go Downtier

At Lawyer for Profit today Michael Sher­man posts, riff­ing on this post by Susan Cartier Liebel at Build a Solo Prac­tice, LLC, about law schools’ fail­ure to teach stu­dents how to hang a shin­gle.

Susan quotes Ryan Alexan­der, a Har­vard law grad who started his own practice:

I hope HLS will even­tu­ally offer a sem­i­nar in run­ning your own prac­tice to open up stu­dents’ eyes to the pos­si­bil­ity. HLS stu­dents are too risk averse for their own good — there is a lot of demand for ser­vices that you can pro­vide for peo­ple. Many stu­dents go to BigLaw against their con­science or inter­ests and hate lawyer­ing, because they are not true to them­selves. There is another path. It is excit­ing, lib­er­at­ing and uniquely ful­fill­ing to have your own prac­tice. You can pre­pare for it and be ready.

The fol­low­ing might sur­prise lots of future law stu­dents. It might sur­prise some cur­rent and past Har­vard Law School stu­dents (if you think that the first tier of law schools is the be-all and end-all of legal edu­ca­tion, pre­pare for a revelation):

If you want to work for your­self, go to a sec­ond– or third-tier law school in the city in which you want to prac­tice.
If you have the native intel­li­gence and/or the work ethic to get into Har­vard, you don’t have to go to Har­vard to suc­ceed. If you go down­tier, you may not be as well edu­cated as if you had gone to Har­vard, but you’ll be bet­ter pre­pared, bet­ter con­nected, prob­a­bly bet­ter trained, and most likely in less debt.
Biglaw pays big money for the pres­tige of hav­ing wage slaves from the “top” law schools. But the pay­ing clients? The ones that might hire a first-year lawyer to do their legal work? They don’t give a damn whether you went to Yale or TSU. And rightly so.

Susan writes:

While you might say, “he went to Har­vard. He’s got it eas­ier,” I would have to dis­agree. Fear is fear. Not fol­low­ing one’s own desires and per­son­al­ity and ter­ror at break­ing free from the herd is not unique to Har­vard Law grad­u­ates. This men­tal­ity is instilled in all law stu­dents, the mantra, “you can’t do it. Who would hire you? You’re a mal­prac­tice case wait­ing to hap­pen” is drummed into your head from day one wher­ever you go to school. He just paid more for the brainwashing.

I would take it far­ther. First-tier law grads, I think, have it harder when it comes to start­ing their own prac­tices than many do. Stu­dents at South Texas Col­lege of Law don’t have this neg­a­tive brain­wash­ing drummed into their heads. Stu­dents at TSU don’t (if they sur­vive the bru­tal first-year cut). Stu­dents at my alma mater, Uni­ver­sity of Hous­ton Law Cen­ter, weren’t steeped in this neg­a­tivism when I went there (but that was a long time ago, before the Richard Alder­man regime, when the Dean tried to turn UHLC into Nebraska).

One of the keys, I think, is that more stu­dents at these law schools see self-employment as a nec­es­sary option. Because a higher pro­por­tion of stu­dents from these schools will hang out their own shin­gles, the cur­ric­ula at these schools are more geared toward prepar­ing them to do so. Why doesn’t Har­vard pre­pare stu­dents to hang out a shin­gle? Because it doesn’t need to.

Another key is that stu­dents have oppor­tu­ni­ties to work or oth­er­wise par­tic­i­pate in the local legal com­mu­nity dur­ing law school. A lawyer who wants to make a liv­ing in Hous­ton will be bet­ter off if she knows and is known by the local bar. An intern­ship at the DA’s office, or a job as a run­ner for a criminal-defense lawyer, pro­vides an entree into a crim­i­nal defense practice.

A third key is that alumni are clus­tered around the schools. Alumni want to see law stu­dents from their school suc­ceed, and will often be more help­ful to stu­dents there.
Of course, my opin­ions are formed by prac­tic­ing in Hous­ton, and this may be a Texas thing (grad­u­ates of lower-tier law schools in other states, did you feel pre­pared to prac­tice on your own when you got out?), an urban thing (Bay­lor grads, how about you?) or a Texas urban thing (UT grads?).

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Mark Bennett got his letter of marque from the Supreme Court of Texas in May 1995. He is famous for having no sense of humor when it comes to totalitarianism.

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8 Responses to “Go Downtier”

  1. Malum says:

    I had the unique plea­sure of attend­ing a his­tor­i­cally black col­lege for law school. Howard pro­vided me with a well rounded edu­ca­tion which pre­pared me not only to work in a big firm but to hang my own shin­gle as well.

    The great­est advan­tage I find in attend­ing Howard is that it gives me an auto­matic cred­i­bil­ity with my Black clients.

    It is hard enough sit­ting down with a client and over­com­ing the pre­sump­tions most of o0ur clients have about PD’s, but when they find out I went to Howard the response is sur­prise and curios­ity as to why this “white boy” went to Howard. (most of my clients don’t believe i am Mex­i­can) This is gen­er­ally fol­lowed by a sense of mutual respect that gets me bet­ter coop­er­a­tion than my col­leagues seem to get.

    I wouldn’t change my law school expe­ri­ence for the world.

  2. shg says:

    Malum, you’re male?

  3. Bill M says:

    Damn straight!

    As a recent grad UT Law in Austin whose con­sid­er­ing hang­ing out a shin­gle once the bar results come back (but I’m badly…under-capitalized), my guess is that you are absolutely right. We got no sup­port or even a sug­ges­tion that it was pos­si­ble for a young lawyer to hang out a shingle.

    UT, and prob­a­bly many pres­ti­gious schools, mostly cares about mov­ing the top 10% of stu­dents into the top 10 law firms. For every­one else they have some­thing between pity and con­tempt. This hyper-focus on mov­ing peo­ple into the top firms leaves those of us who are not des­tined by grades or natures for such work at some­thing of a loss for career plans.

  4. Zeb says:

    I’m a sec­ond year stu­dent at the Uni­ver­sity of Bal­ti­more, a sup­pos­edly 4th tier school (that just hap­pens to sup­ply the bulk of trial lawyers in Bal­ti­more). Mr. Bennett’s intial post has inspired me to post this com­ment seek­ing advice. I have an inter­est in a crim­i­nal defense career. Given the nature of the law school course require­ments and sched­ul­ing, it looks like I’ll have to make choices between tak­ing sub­stan­tive crim­i­nal law elec­tives (Con­sti­tu­tional Crim­i­nal Pro­ce­dure II, Fed­eral Crim­i­nal Prac­tice, Foren­sic Evi­dence, Sen­tenc­ing and Plea Bar­gain­ing Sem­i­nar), and legal skills classes (trial advo­cacy, advanced trial ad, bench trial ad, appel­late ad, lit­i­ga­tion process, crim­i­nal law clinic , etc.). Which type of course is more valuable–the sub­stan­tive course or the skills course?

    My instincts tell me that one can learn the sub­stan­tive law via inde­pen­dent study, and so I should load up on the more prac­ti­cal legal skills courses while mak­ing sure I take the not required but highly rec­om­mended bar-tested courses. Do you folks agree? If not, why not?

  5. Mark Bennett says:

    Bill M, thanks for the com­ment. One thing that I think the law schools should teach is how to hang out a shin­gle on the cheap. If you’re a new lawyer and you don’t have either fam­ily money or a spouse who works, you’re prob­a­bly undercapitalized.

    Zeb, I think you’ve got it right, but I’ll move your post up to a new blog post­ing so that oth­ers see it and weigh in.

  6. shg says:

    They have some­thing called a “Plea Bar­gain­ing Sem­i­nar?” Do they use desks in the class­room, or make you take the entire course on your knees?

  7. Anonymous says:

    I’m a lit­tle late in com­ment­ing on this post, but I would have to dis­agree. My feel­ing is that you go to the very best school that you get into unless there are sig­nif­i­cant finan­cial or geo­graphic rea­sons for doing oth­er­wise. I went to Cor­nell, which hover between 11 and 15 on the so-called top ten lists, for what they are worth. I went solo back in 1993, 5 years out of law school, and I can tell you that my Cor­nell degree has gen­er­ated sig­nif­i­cant rev­enue for me. Because of my school, I received refer­rals, lucra­tive con­tract work that would never have oth­er­wise come my way. more­over, I have been able to build a solo prac­tice that encom­passes energy reg­u­la­tory work (which has always been a money maker) and more inter­ested court appointed crim­i­nal work (which I did when I started my firm and 2 years there­after).
    I know that I part ways with my solo col­leagues on this, but I believe that skills train­ing in law school is over­rated. I think that stu­dents should get a cou­ple of skills courses, work at firms or gov­ern­ment jobs over the sum­mer, etc…But you never really learn how to do some­thing until you watch real lawyer in court and then hop in and do it your­self. I took a 3 day pub­lic defender sem­i­nar to pre­pare for my court appointed crim­i­nal cases. The kinds of things you don’t learn on the job are how to think, how to rea­son and how to ana­lyze and dis­tin­guish cases and how to write. Those are the skills that I learned in law school, the rest I have fig­ured out on my own.
    Car­olyn Ele­fant
    http://www.myshingle.com

  8. Mark Bennett says:

    Car­olyn,

    Thanks for the comment.

    What did you do for the five years between law school and hang­ing out a shingle?

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