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	<title>Comments on: Honoring the Dead with Destruction?</title>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2007/06/honoring-dead-with-destruction.html/comment-page-1#comment-8690</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 05:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The coherence of this post reminds me just why I signed up to hear what you have to say. Your observation that &quot;honoring the child&quot; by putting the bus driver &quot;in a box,&quot; thereby possibly ruining his children&#039;s lives, is so sane, but so rare. (Not that the DA&#039;s claim that he pursued the case to honor the child is actually believable.) 

The DA&#039;s perverse logic has a parallel in the cases where men are labelled sex offenders for life, for a teenage indiscretion that occurred more than a decade earlier--usually for consensual sex with an underage girl. So you have perfectly normal men whose children are forced to suffer harassment, shame, and anxiety throughout their formative years. So much for the protection of children!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The coherence of this post reminds me just why I signed up to hear what you have to say. Your observation that &#8220;honoring the child&#8221; by putting the bus driver &#8220;in a box,&#8221; thereby possibly ruining his children&#8217;s lives, is so sane, but so rare. (Not that the DA&#8217;s claim that he pursued the case to honor the child is actually believable.) </p>
<p>The DA&#8217;s perverse logic has a parallel in the cases where men are labelled sex offenders for life, for a teenage indiscretion that occurred more than a decade earlier&#8211;usually for consensual sex with an underage girl. So you have perfectly normal men whose children are forced to suffer harassment, shame, and anxiety throughout their formative years. So much for the protection of children!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bennett</title>
		<link>http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2007/06/honoring-dead-with-destruction.html/comment-page-1#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last Monday I was rear-ended while sitting at a stoplight. The guy who hit me said that his brakes weren&#039;t working, and he was going to get them fixed. I hurt my neck.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Under Texas law, causing bodily injury (which means pain) to someone recklessly is a class A assault. Could the guy who hit me have been prosecuted for assault? No doubt. Should he have? Hell, no. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Putting him in jail would not have made my neck feel better. It wouldn&#039;t have paid for the damage to my car, and it wouldn&#039;t have made the streets significantly safer. It would, however, have cost society a lot of money.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He shouldn&#039;t have been prosecuted for assault. If the cops had been called and had referred the case to the DA&#039;s office, the DA&#039;s office should have declined charges. That&#039;s a proper exercise of prosecutorial discretion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last Monday I was rear-ended while sitting at a stoplight. The guy who hit me said that his brakes weren&#8217;t working, and he was going to get them fixed. I hurt my neck.</p>
<p>Under Texas law, causing bodily injury (which means pain) to someone recklessly is a class A assault. Could the guy who hit me have been prosecuted for assault? No doubt. Should he have? Hell, no. </p>
<p>Putting him in jail would not have made my neck feel better. It wouldn&#8217;t have paid for the damage to my car, and it wouldn&#8217;t have made the streets significantly safer. It would, however, have cost society a lot of money.</p>
<p>He shouldn&#8217;t have been prosecuted for assault. If the cops had been called and had referred the case to the DA&#8217;s office, the DA&#8217;s office should have declined charges. That&#8217;s a proper exercise of prosecutorial discretion.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Greenfield</title>
		<link>http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2007/06/honoring-dead-with-destruction.html/comment-page-1#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mind if I go a step furter on Mark&#039;s assumptive criminality by dint of a dead girl?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The death of a child is a tragedy. But the end result does not determine the cause.  Sometimes people are killed because of crime, sometimes negligence and sometimes, it just happens.  Sometimes there is no fault to be laid, though that cuts against our grain as we are certain that for every bad outcome, someone must be to blame.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We need to break this cycle of needing to find someone guilty of something every time a bad outcome happens.  It blinds us to right and wrong, and does not nothing to eliminate the tragedy.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;SHG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mind if I go a step furter on Mark&#8217;s assumptive criminality by dint of a dead girl?  </p>
<p>The death of a child is a tragedy. But the end result does not determine the cause.  Sometimes people are killed because of crime, sometimes negligence and sometimes, it just happens.  Sometimes there is no fault to be laid, though that cuts against our grain as we are certain that for every bad outcome, someone must be to blame.</p>
<p>We need to break this cycle of needing to find someone guilty of something every time a bad outcome happens.  It blinds us to right and wrong, and does not nothing to eliminate the tragedy.  </p>
<p>SHG</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bennett</title>
		<link>http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2007/06/honoring-dead-with-destruction.html/comment-page-1#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Mark.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There is no question that the prosecutor was acting with the zeitgeist; that&#039;s what politicians do. What passes for &quot;the protection of children&quot; in Texas is often just a big political feel-good suckhole.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A dead child may suggest negligence, but recklessness, which is a much higher standard than negligence, is another question entirely. And when &quot;ninety-eight percent&quot; of the evidence points to the driver being correct, you have to wonder why the prosecutor thought that public resources would better be spent prosecuting the driver than doing something that would actually &quot;protect children.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of orange flags on kids&#039; bikes. One of those flags on a four-foot pole might well have saved this little girl&#039;s life. A hundred thousand dollars worth of those flags would go a long way toward protecting children. But nobody ever got elected for spending public money on geeky orange flags.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Mark.</p>
<p>There is no question that the prosecutor was acting with the zeitgeist; that&#8217;s what politicians do. What passes for &#8220;the protection of children&#8221; in Texas is often just a big political feel-good suckhole.</p>
<p>A dead child may suggest negligence, but recklessness, which is a much higher standard than negligence, is another question entirely. And when &#8220;ninety-eight percent&#8221; of the evidence points to the driver being correct, you have to wonder why the prosecutor thought that public resources would better be spent prosecuting the driver than doing something that would actually &#8220;protect children.&#8221;</p>
<p>(The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of orange flags on kids&#8217; bikes. One of those flags on a four-foot pole might well have saved this little girl&#8217;s life. A hundred thousand dollars worth of those flags would go a long way toward protecting children. But nobody ever got elected for spending public money on geeky orange flags.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2007/06/honoring-dead-with-destruction.html/comment-page-1#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Respectfully, I&#039;d like to counter that the corpse of a dead young girl obviously run over by a bus is prima facie evidence that somebody somewhere was certainly wreckless and deviated from the norm, since it is not everyday little girls are run over and killed by buses in Texas.&lt;br/&gt;The question as to whether the driver &quot;did all he could...&quot; is one of fact for the jury, I believe.&lt;br/&gt;Also, Texas has been going the distance and then some when it comes to the protection of children.  Indeed, the 5th Circuit has held they have gone too far in certain CPS cases, but the prosecutor acted with the zeitgeist or spirit of theses times in boxing the defendant in this case.&lt;br/&gt;I make no comment on whether the jury decided correctly.  I am fairly confident juries do what they are charged to do by the courts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respectfully, I&#8217;d like to counter that the corpse of a dead young girl obviously run over by a bus is prima facie evidence that somebody somewhere was certainly wreckless and deviated from the norm, since it is not everyday little girls are run over and killed by buses in Texas.<br />The question as to whether the driver &#8220;did all he could&#8230;&#8221; is one of fact for the jury, I believe.<br />Also, Texas has been going the distance and then some when it comes to the protection of children.  Indeed, the 5th Circuit has held they have gone too far in certain CPS cases, but the prosecutor acted with the zeitgeist or spirit of theses times in boxing the defendant in this case.<br />I make no comment on whether the jury decided correctly.  I am fairly confident juries do what they are charged to do by the courts.</p>
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