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	<title>Comments on: Give Me the Darn File!</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Bennett</title>
		<link>http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2007/06/give-me-darn-file.html/comment-page-1#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments. A court order to retun the file is a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments. A court order to retun the file is a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2007/06/give-me-darn-file.html/comment-page-1#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had some luck with asking the court to order a former attorney to turn over a file to me.  Then there is, at least, a threat of contempt.  Usually, a lawyer doesn&#039;t want to make the court angry.  However, the court may not have the authority to actually order a non-party to do anything.  My argument is that the court has the right to govern the practice of attorneys before it.  Fortunately, I have never had to go any further than getting the order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had some luck with asking the court to order a former attorney to turn over a file to me.  Then there is, at least, a threat of contempt.  Usually, a lawyer doesn&#8217;t want to make the court angry.  However, the court may not have the authority to actually order a non-party to do anything.  My argument is that the court has the right to govern the practice of attorneys before it.  Fortunately, I have never had to go any further than getting the order.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
		<link>http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2007/06/give-me-darn-file.html/comment-page-1#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is inexcusable. When I represent clients in habeas corpus petitions, I run into this problem very frequently. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We don&#039;t need a motion here; simply a copy of an appearance and a release from the client. Despite that, it sometimes takes predecessor counsel upwards of a year to hand over the file. A YEAR!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Then, you should see some of the things that pass for &quot;files&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is inexcusable. When I represent clients in habeas corpus petitions, I run into this problem very frequently. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need a motion here; simply a copy of an appearance and a release from the client. Despite that, it sometimes takes predecessor counsel upwards of a year to hand over the file. A YEAR!</p>
<p>Then, you should see some of the things that pass for &#8220;files&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bennett</title>
		<link>http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2007/06/give-me-darn-file.html/comment-page-1#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for the comments. You&#039;re right -- I shouldn&#039;t rely on his notes -- but he obtained medical records on the client that I may not be able to get before trial.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The prior lawyer has been unresponsive to the client&#039;s requests for the file and, indeed, to all attempts by the client to contact him . . . which may have something to do with why I was hired.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think a lawyer is on thin ice if he doesn&#039;t return the client&#039;s file to the client &lt;i&gt;via the client&#039;s new counsel&lt;/i&gt; on request. You&#039;re not suggesting that my request doesn&#039;t obligate the lawyer to return the file?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments. You&#8217;re right &#8212; I shouldn&#8217;t rely on his notes &#8212; but he obtained medical records on the client that I may not be able to get before trial.</p>
<p>The prior lawyer has been unresponsive to the client&#8217;s requests for the file and, indeed, to all attempts by the client to contact him . . . which may have something to do with why I was hired.</p>
<p>I think a lawyer is on thin ice if he doesn&#8217;t return the client&#8217;s file to the client <i>via the client&#8217;s new counsel</i> on request. You&#8217;re not suggesting that my request doesn&#8217;t obligate the lawyer to return the file?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2007/06/give-me-darn-file.html/comment-page-1#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might add what I do....I send the client after the file, I instruct them to fetch the file and whatever refunds he/she can get from their former counsel to me.  Be patient, take Matt&#039;s advice, use it to buy time if you must, but really it should not be that difficult.  p.s.   that rule does not apply to you, unless you are &quot;the client&quot;.  The client has the property interest in the file that the courts recognize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might add what I do&#8230;.I send the client after the file, I instruct them to fetch the file and whatever refunds he/she can get from their former counsel to me.  Be patient, take Matt&#8217;s advice, use it to buy time if you must, but really it should not be that difficult.  p.s.   that rule does not apply to you, unless you are &#8220;the client&#8221;.  The client has the property interest in the file that the courts recognize.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://blog.bennettandbennett.com/2007/06/give-me-darn-file.html/comment-page-1#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would make my own notes, since this previous counsel is obviously inept - I would be just as inept for relying on his notes.  Possession is 9/10ths after all, so if let him keep them..., don&#039;t ask me what I think about the disciplinary rules - they have no place in the law - pure politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would make my own notes, since this previous counsel is obviously inept &#8211; I would be just as inept for relying on his notes.  Possession is 9/10ths after all, so if let him keep them&#8230;, don&#8217;t ask me what I think about the disciplinary rules &#8211; they have no place in the law &#8211; pure politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>File for a continuance.  Raise every Sixth Amendment problem this lawyer&#039;s representation has caused; preserve for appeal.</description>
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